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UPDATE: Patch User Issues Apology To Bad News Bears For Mistaken Concerns Over Sign

The user "used poor judgment" on the matter and says he considered it a lesson learned.

UPDATE: 5:24 p.m., 5/24/12

In the comments section below, Eric Kuhnau, the Patch user who initially had concerns over the sign, issued this letter to the team:

An open letter of apology to the children, families, coaches and supporters of the Bad News Bears,

I apparently was very wrong in my opinion that this was an inappropriate sign for your team. Please accept my apology to each of you.

To Coach Josh, I am sorry for the trouble this has caused and hope nothing but the best for you and your team. I should have addressed it with you and I was wrong not to.

To Jeff, I am sorry as well and thank you for the personal visit today to clarify. If it had been meant as as joke and to be broken glass, I didn't get the joke. I am sorry for that and appreciate the fact that you were trying to instill team spirit.

To the City, I am sorry this was such an issue and to have wasted your time.

I guess I was the one who used poor judgement in this matter and consider that my lesson learned.

Eric K.

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UPDATE: 1:51 p.m., 5/24/12

I just received the following e-mail from the City of University Place's Todd Smith in response to Eric Kahnau's comments on the Bad News Bears sign:

The City of University Place strives to provide positive, quality, fun, enriching opportunities to youth, teens, adults, and seniors in our community.  Parks & Recreation has contacted the team, and the sign is being changed.    The “Bad News Bears” sign is not an official City of University Place sign, nor was it created, or endorsed by the City’s Recreation division.  The perceived negative (inappropriateness) of the sign was not intentional and definitely not created in that context.

We would like to celebrate the fact that there are 855 youth, on 69 teams, coached by over 138 volunteer coaches who are giving their time and compassion to provide an opportunity to experience, learn and play in our youth baseball program.  Local businesses have sponsored 54 of our teams, the “Community Supported Parks & Recreation” 501c3 organization provided 21 scholarships for those needing a little financial support, and there are a dozen youth employed as umpires for this year’s baseball season.  We want to thank all of our supporters.

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Patch user Eric Kuhnau sent the following e-mail to Patch and the City of University Place:

I wanted to bring to your attention a sign that apparently has been posted at some of the coach pitch games/practices for the team Bad News Bears.  I am not sure the bullet holes, real or otherwise, sends a positive message about the City's youth sport programs, especially for children in 1st and 2nd grade. Frankly I am very disappointed and shocked at the message this sign sends to other teams as well as parents and families of University Place and beyond.

I would hope that corrective action is taken to at least remove the bullet holes from the sign.  I would like to think that a coach would use much better judgement in teaching 7-9 year-old children that a shot up sign bearing their team name is the best representation of themselves.  I would hope that our Parks and Rec department would not support or endorse this representation of their programs and resolve it quickly.  It makes me so thankful that we have had great coaches for all of the teams my child has played on that not only taught them the sport and game but also about sportsmanship and positive values.  Not about shot up signs or other messages of violence.

Thank you for your attention to this matter,

E

Susan Bourlet May 24, 2012 at 07:41 PM
I agree with Betsy, Lisa and Mike! The sign was made by my brother in law, and he is one of the most responsible loving father's I know! They made that sign out of love, and support for their kids! Honestly we have enough to worry about in this world, without nosy people getting things all mixed up! To the people that complained, have the nerve to talk to the team coach next time! Instead of causing DRAMA!
Tamara May 24, 2012 at 07:55 PM
I myself being the wife of one of our four amazing coaches and a Mother of a son on the team support the sign. The sign was a symbol of a fun way to support our children. The decals were to portray glass broken, not bullet holes. Our four wonderful coaches go out of their way to work with our children teaching them team skills, unity, the value of good sportsmanship, and fun. Our team does have a lot of fun which does not include any topic of violence. I see that the topic at hand is the "sign", although let me quote in the article it states " He wishes the coach would have used better judgement". It indeed was used and they saw nothing wrong with broken glass. My concern is, is this really about the sign or a way to introduce and instill to our children unsportsman like conduct, disrepect, and the nasty politics that overshadow the amazing game of baseball? If any parent is at any sporting event and sees something that they question being unethical or inappropriate, I would assume (because this is what I would do) that the adult would go to the adult in charge. This would have been an easy option, and encourage this in the future:)
Mike May 24, 2012 at 07:56 PM
As a Coach, not the other Mike, Kelly.... u did not make a mistake!!! Do not let an ignorant person take away from the innocent and fun sign that you made.... Thank you for being so supportive to your son and our team!!!
J May 24, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Sounds like your saying u screwed up!!! U stole a picture that u didn't take yourself and wrote a story about it that reflected your opinion of a topic u didn't even educate yourself about !!!!! It is a little late to take back now..... I hope you educate your children, on how not to handle a situation, and I hope they are not as ignorant as you are!!!
J May 24, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Well said!!!
J May 24, 2012 at 08:22 PM
Well said Mike!!! I'm sure Easton and the Pool Noodle company has already merged and will come out with next years model's soon... Rawling's and Nerf are also coming out with a new ball for the kids.. our children will finally be safe.......
Tamara May 24, 2012 at 08:23 PM
I agree Lisa:)
Tamara May 24, 2012 at 08:28 PM
NO mistake was made! We are lucky to have involved creative parents that all work well together to make this a great season for our kids. We laugh, have fun and the result is kids learning what support is!
cornholio May 24, 2012 at 08:45 PM
No kidding... way to go Erik! Next time take a picture of the mountain or maybe another obscene photo of yourself in front of a wall painting of a women with large tata's...
Christie Anderson May 24, 2012 at 08:49 PM
No assuption is necessary....I AM hillarious ;-)
John May 24, 2012 at 08:49 PM
Thank you University Place and Brent for seeing past the stupidity of certain people who try and take away from the game......... Eric, Janna, Jessica, and MJ...if you knew anything of the movie you would have known that it was not meant to be bullet holes!!! Let's be educated adults and not assume that the intentions of parent at a little league game are not meant for negativity and the promotion of unwarranted acts!!!
John May 24, 2012 at 08:58 PM
Eric did you steal this picture from someone else, claim it as your own, then write to bitch about it????? If this is true then Eric you should be banned from all University Place sporting events.... shame on you (If true)
Antoine Dodson May 24, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Eric- Cute Pic, Heaven huh? That's appropriate. MJ- The sports section of the sticker aisle? Please tell me that was a joke. You a big scrap-booker or something? You are really dumb. Fo' real. You can go an' tell that, go an' tell that, go an' tell that, home, home, home, home, homeboy.
John May 24, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Marci (MJ), I can understand the imagine being taken out of context... That is why I waited to comment and educate myself before making a very fast judgement which could be mistaken and I would have to recant.... You are part of the problem, and you apparently rush to judge based on an immediate emotional response to an image!!! Hopefully you have learned from this and will next time educate yourself so you don't sound so naive....
Antoine Dodson May 24, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Yikes! Passive aggressive much? I bet Eric wishes that picture was stuck in "cyberspace". He climbin in yo windows, snatchin them pictures up. MJ, Keep scrapbooking sweetie ;) I bet You and Eric could steal a bunch of pictures to make a nice scrapbook. Back to the "cyberspace" for me. Huh huh, he said tata's.
Kelly Englert May 24, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Hi everyone my name is Jeff Englert...I made the sign, but I did so with NO HARM meant to anyone..I meant it to be FUN..I'm SORRY for the grief this has caused our coaches, friends and the city...At 2:00 today I gave Eric the consideration he DID NOT give us, and spoke to him face to face. Eric personally knows the coach of the our team, myself, and many of the team parents...he has a car, a cell phone, e-mail, landline, and the U.S.Mail, to contact any of us...at any time he could have tapped one of us on the shoulder and voiced his concern, and it would have been FIXED on the spot...Instead he chose to go this route. I'm a MAN and when I have an issue with something or someone I speak to them directly like a MAN and give them the opportunity to fix the problem..Eric's son and my son go to the same school...they both play with toy guns and toy swords, and play all kinds of video games...in the end Eric agreed to disagree with me on the sign, and apologized to me. I told him I would only accept his apology if he APOLOGIZES to our coach (who by the way is a TOP NOTCH guy) in closing I personally took the bullet hole sticker off, and I AM SORRY to anyone else that was offended by this...NO HARM WAS MEANT...now I'm going to get back to putting this waste of energy back into my Son and our team.....GO BEARS.
Kelly Englert May 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM
POSTING A 2ND TIME AS SOME MAY NOT REALIZE THIS POSTED ABOVE ORIGINALLY: Hi everyone my name is Jeff Englert...I made the sign, but I did so with NO HARM meant to anyone..I meant it to be FUN..I'm SORRY for the grief this has caused our coaches, friends and the city...At 2:00 today I gave Eric the consideration he DID NOT give us, and spoke to him face to face. Eric personally knows the coach of the our team, myself, and many of the team parents...he has a car, a cell phone, e-mail, landline, and the U.S.Mail, to contact any of us...at any time he could have tapped one of us on the shoulder and voiced his concern, and it would have been FIXED on the spot...Instead he chose to go this route. I'm a MAN and when I have an issue with something or someone I speak to them directly like a MAN and give them the opportunity to fix the problem..Eric's son and my son go to the same school...they both play with toy guns and toy swords, and play all kinds of video games...in the end Eric agreed to disagree with me on the sign, and apologized to me. I told him I would only accept his apology if he APOLOGIZES to our coach (who by the way is a TOP NOTCH guy) in closing I personally took the bullet hole sticker off, and I AM SORRY to anyone else that was offended by this...NO HARM WAS MEANT...now I'm going to get back to putting this waste of energy back into my Son and our team.....GO BEARS.
Dan May 24, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I think the bigger story here, is that it generated this many comments in so little time. Brent, is this a record? It's certainly a one-day record. Go Bears!
cornholio May 24, 2012 at 11:20 PM
i actually think that Erik is done going to baseball games this year. Right now he is SO wishing he hadn't posted this! Good Work Everyone, and thank you Erik for a good time today.
Susan Bourlet May 24, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Well said Jeff!! Love You, Kelly, Tamara & Josh!! Go Bears!
Tamara May 24, 2012 at 11:40 PM
To J and John, Yes the picture was taken off of one of the parents face book pages. It was on mine, so very well could have been mine or a few other parents pages. This has been taken care of and cannot happen again. Thanks for supporting our coaches, the rec department, and our team...we are happy with the result and proud of our team, parents, and kids who are having a blast! To Jeff: Way to go and show how to be an adult and handle a situation...go to the source!
Eric Kuhnau May 25, 2012 at 12:09 AM
An open letter of apology to the children, families, coaches and supporters of the Bad News Bears, I apparently was very wrong in my opinion that this was an inappropriate sign for your team. Please accept my apology to each of you. To Coach Josh, I am sorry for the trouble this has caused and hope nothing but the best for you and your team. I should have addressed it with you and I was wrong not to. To Jeff, I am sorry as well and thank you for the personal visit today to clarify. If it had been meant as as joke and to be broken glass, I didn't get the joke. I am sorry for that and appreciate the fact that you were trying to instill team spirit. To the City, I am sorry this was such an issue and to have wasted your time. I guess I was the one who used poor judgement in this matter and consider that my lesson learned. Eric K.
Kelly Englert May 25, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Thanks Eric. Now we can all get back to what's important...
Bob Smith May 25, 2012 at 12:44 AM
I don't know any of you, but check this site often and this topic caught my attention. Wow -- talk about a lesson learned Eric! It is always best to think something through before passing judgement! And, give somebody a chance to rectify something before involving the public and the city! Also, it's parents like you that think they are doing something worthwhile when really they just ruin what we kids had in the good old days -- like kids not being able to play chase at recess, or dodgeball at P.E., or the recent one my grandchild told me, they can't play Rock/Paper/Scissors at school any more! Pretty soon we can just put them all in bubbles! Good luck to all you parents out there, raising kids nowadays if a tough job!
N May 25, 2012 at 01:08 AM
I bet this is a record and thanks Erik for showing us all a great time... I never said "I told you so", so I can't take credit, but from the looks of your picture that was posted here, you know the one with your head in between a couple of HUGE "tata's", I think there is a "bigger" picture here - it's ERIK! - (pun is intended....lol). Can't wait to see you on the field. I will be wearing the German Frauline shirt holding the Bier Stein in my hand... feel free to rest your head between my you know whats. (family friendly just for you Brent). love you.
pyoung May 25, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Whooo weeeeeee... I just checked in and DAMNNNN - Erik really caused an S-Storm for himself. All I can say is WOW. A little dude baseball team created all this nonsence? Erik, you should be ashamed of yourself for involving an entire community and affecting a baseball team you have no attachments to. Did you wife make you post this or did you do this on your own behalf? #1 Bad News Bears - keep on keepin on!
J May 25, 2012 at 04:56 AM
Wow... great observation KJ.. I forgot this was KING5 news. Welcome to the party. You are so smart with your not worth the effort comment. I am curious on why you feel your comment was indeed worth the effort? Usually people like you should stay off these type of forums.
Paul Englert May 25, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Paul Englert My nephew plays on the Bad News Bears baseball team. I have been to as many games as I've been able to get to in support of my nephew and his team and have gotten to know quite a few of the good parents. For you to infer or suggest that a team sign is teaching violence or something inappropriate or to question the intention or integrity of these good people and coaches who volunteer their time is rediculous. That sign was made in my garage with no malice intended. I coached my now grown boys, one of which just returned from deployment in the Middle East in service of this free country where free speech is just one of the many rights that my son was protecting. My boys turned out fine. My integrity and the integrity of all the people involved is not to be questioned by the likes of you. Do you or have you ever coached or do you just like to sit on the sideline and criticize the efforts of others? Maybe you should contact Copper Tone and complain about the ad appearing all over the country where the dog's pulling down the little girls swim suit exposing her back side. Where does it stop? Based on the photo of you posed in front of a cleavage exposed mural, you need to check your own camp about the message that sends. It's people like you who ruin things for the majority. Why? Because you can? Continued
Paul Englert May 25, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Maybe you should spend your time doing something other than causing trouble for and wasting the time of good coaches and people who are spending their time making a "POSITIVE" difference. Any thoughts? Probably not or this whole thing would have never happened.
J May 25, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Well said Paul....hope that moron and the people like him keep their ignorance to themselves!!!

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